Legislature(2015 - 2016)SENATE FINANCE 532

03/16/2015 01:30 PM Senate FINANCE



Audio Topic
01:36:09 PM Start
01:37:01 PM Confirmation Hearing: Alaska Mental Health Trust Authority Board of Trustees
01:51:31 PM Confirmation Hearing: Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission
02:02:21 PM Confirmation Hearing: Board of Certified Real Estate Appraisers
02:05:45 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ Presentation: Overview FY17 Operating Budget TELECONFERENCED
+ Alaska Mental Health Trust Authority Board of TELECONFERENCED
Trustees
Carlton Smith - Juneau
Christopher Cooke - Anchorage
Mary Jane Michael - Anchorage
+ Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission TELECONFERENCED
Michael Gallagher - Anchorage
+ Board of Certified Real Estate Appraisers TELECONFERENCED
Renee Piszczek - Fairbanks
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
                 SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                      March 16, 2015                                                                                            
                         1:36 p.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:36:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon called the Senate Finance Committee                                                                          
meeting to order at 1:36 p.m.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Anna MacKinnon, Co-Chair                                                                                                
Senator Pete Kelly, Co-Chair                                                                                                    
Senator Peter Micciche, Vice-Chair                                                                                              
Senator Click Bishop                                                                                                            
Senator Mike Dunleavy                                                                                                           
Senator Lyman Hoffman                                                                                                           
Senator Donny Olson                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
None                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Carlton Smith, Juneau; Michael Gallagher, Anchorage.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT VIA TELECONFERENCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Christopher Cooke, Anchorage; Mary Jane Michael, Anchorage;                                                                     
Renee Piszczek, Fairbanks.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
 CONFIRMATION HEARINGS:                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     ALASKA MENTAL HEALTH TRUST AUTHORITY BOARD OF TRUSTEES                                                                     
     ALASKA OIL AND GAS CONSERVATION COMMISSION                                                                                 
     BOARD OF CERTIFIED REAL ESTATE APPRAISERS                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
^CONFIRMATION HEARING: ALASKA MENTAL HEALTH TRUST AUTHORITY                                                                   
BOARD OF TRUSTEES                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:37:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon  shared that  Alaska Mental  Health Trust                                                                    
Board of  Trustees was  located in  AS 47.30.016.  The board                                                                    
was  established,  and had  the  authority  governed by  the                                                                    
Board  of Trustees.  The board  consisted  of seven  members                                                                    
appointed by the governor and  confirmed by the legislature.                                                                    
The  members  appointed  under  the  subsections,  would  be                                                                    
appointed  based on  their ability  in financial  management                                                                    
investment;   land   management    or   services   for   the                                                                    
beneficiaries  of the  trust. She  explained that  the board                                                                    
must include someone from the  Alaska Mental Health Board; a                                                                    
member of  the Governor's Council on  Disabilities; a member                                                                    
of the  Advisory Board on  Alcohol and Drug Abuse;  a member                                                                    
of the  Alaska Commission on  Aging; a member of  the Alaska                                                                    
Native  Health  Board;  and  one   person  selected  by  the                                                                    
authority.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CARLTON SMITH,  JUNEAU, introduced himself, and  shared that                                                                    
he had  practiced commercial  real estate  for 25  years. He                                                                    
stated that  he had  the only  commercial firm  in Southeast                                                                    
Alaska,  and  furthered  that  he   had  an  interest  in  a                                                                    
residential brokerage. He had  experience in land management                                                                    
with  Sealskin Corporation,  and  as a  CEO  of the  largest                                                                    
rural  village corporation.  He  shared that  he had  worked                                                                    
with investors nationwide in commercial  real estate. He was                                                                    
passionate  about  the mission  of  the  trust, because  his                                                                    
mother was  a beneficiary  of the trust  for many  years. He                                                                    
saw  the   current  challenge  of   the  trust   related  to                                                                    
generating  additional  revenue.  He felt  that  the  demand                                                                    
curve was exponential  for the trust. The  trust land office                                                                    
had done some  tremendous work to ensure  that the minerals,                                                                    
assets, timber, non-cash assets,  and commercial real estate                                                                    
were performing  at a  much higher  level. He  stressed that                                                                    
the   work  was   important,  because   there  would   be  a                                                                    
substantial number of future beneficiaries.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Micciche asked  which  seat Mr.  Smith would  be                                                                    
occupying.  Mr. Smith  replied  that it  was  the last  seat                                                                    
selected by the trust.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Micciche  noted that  Mr. Smith was  appointed by                                                                    
Governor  Parnell  in  2010.  He  wondered  if  the  it  was                                                                    
typically a  three-year seat, and  whether he  was appointed                                                                    
to a vacated  seat in 2010. Mr. Smith responded  that he was                                                                    
currently applying for a five-year position.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Micciche asked  for  more information  regarding                                                                    
the  2010  seat.  Mr.  Smith   replied  that  there  was  an                                                                    
administrative  error in  the 2010  appointment process.  He                                                                    
relayed that he previously  held a position with Legislative                                                                    
Affairs,  so  he resigned  from  the  trust because  of  the                                                                    
potential for  administrative conflict.  He stated  that the                                                                    
agency  was  not  able  to  reconcile  that  error,  so  the                                                                    
appointment  occurred at  the same  time  of his  employment                                                                    
with Legislative Affairs.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:42:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHRISTOPHER  COOKE, ANCHORAGE  (via teleconference),  shared                                                                    
that he  was an  attorney, and  had lived  in Alaska  for 47                                                                    
years.  He  served  10  years as  Superior  Court  Judge  in                                                                    
Bethel. He  remarked that he his  children and grandchildren                                                                    
lived  in  Alaska, and  were  all  Native Alaskans.  He  had                                                                    
first-hand   experience  with   mental   health  needs   for                                                                    
effective programs  and services.  He expressed  concern and                                                                    
praise for the  emphasis that the trust  placed on providing                                                                    
services  for beneficiaries  in rural  Alaska, for  crafting                                                                    
innovative programs that addressed  the needs and challenges                                                                    
of   serving  the   beneficiaries.   He   had  no   previous                                                                    
involvement  with  the authority,  but  shared  that he  had                                                                    
educated  himself over  the  previous  months. He  expressed                                                                    
confidence in the  board and employees of  the authority. He                                                                    
was impressed  with the intelligence  and emphasis  that the                                                                    
authority brought to dealing with  the difficult issues, and                                                                    
provide  services  to  individuals   who  may  otherwise  be                                                                    
overlooked.  He understood  that there  were many  different                                                                    
targeted  groups  in  the   programs  including  those  with                                                                    
developmental  disabilities; varying  lifelong disabilities;                                                                    
aging  people;  the  elderly;  those  with  substance  abuse                                                                    
treatment  needs;   and  other  mental  health   issues.  He                                                                    
stressed  that  some   people  end  up  in   the  court  and                                                                    
correctional  system, without  proper  treatment. He  stated                                                                    
that his  background as an attorney  influenced his positive                                                                    
feelings about the treatment of the beneficiaries.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:46:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon  wondered to which position  he was being                                                                    
appointed.  Mr. Cooke  replied  that he  did  not know,  and                                                                    
shared that he was not aware of the detailed categories.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MARY   JANE   MICHAEL,   ANCHORAGE   (via   teleconference),                                                                    
explained  that  she was  applying  for  a second  five-year                                                                    
term, the  program area  of expertise.  She stated  that she                                                                    
had 25 years' experience working  as a provider and advocate                                                                    
in the developmental disabilities  and mental health fields.                                                                    
She  was  involved  in  many  capital  projects  related  to                                                                    
disability programs. She  shared that she had  served on two                                                                    
committees  in  the most  recent  five  years: the  resource                                                                    
management  committee;  and  the  planning  and  programming                                                                    
committee. She  felt that the resource  management committee                                                                    
was very successful  in five years, by  tripling its revenue                                                                    
generated  through  the  resources.  The  increase  was  due                                                                    
primarily  to expanding  the authority's  opportunities into                                                                    
real  estate  development.   The  planning  and  programming                                                                    
committee worked on the focus  areas, which had evolved over                                                                    
time. The  "Bring the Kids"  home project was  successful by                                                                    
bringing  teenagers   and  children  back  to   Alaska  from                                                                    
hospitals  outside of  the state.  That project  was winding                                                                    
down, and  the focus  had evolved  to housing  and long-term                                                                    
services  and  support; beneficiary  employment;  disability                                                                    
justice; and  substance abuse treatment. She  stated that it                                                                    
was an honor  to serve on the authority,  and announced that                                                                    
there had  been great recent  progress. The shared  that the                                                                    
state  revenue  decline  and  discussions  of  Medicaid  and                                                                    
marijuana  were  all at  the  forefront  of the  authorities                                                                    
process.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon FORWARDED  the  appointments of  Carlton                                                                    
Smith,  Christopher Cooke,  and Mary  Jane Michael  be to  a                                                                    
Joint  Session  for  consideration  in  accordance  with  AS                                                                    
39.05.080. This did  not reflect an intent by  any member to                                                                    
vote  for or  against  the confirmation  of the  individuals                                                                    
during any further sessions.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
^CONFIRMATION  HEARING:  ALASKA  OIL  AND  GAS  CONSERVATION                                                                  
COMMISSION                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:51:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon  stated  that  the Alaska  Oil  and  Gas                                                                    
Conservation Commission was located  in AS 31.05.005. It was                                                                    
composed of  three commissioners  appointed by  the governor                                                                    
and confirmed  by the  legislature in  a joint  session. The                                                                    
governor shall consider and give  preference to a person who                                                                    
demonstrated  experience in  oil and  gas operations  in the                                                                    
state. Qualifications  for the  members included  one member                                                                    
should be  a petroleum engineer,  who held a  certificate of                                                                    
registration as  an engineer, had  earned a degree  from the                                                                    
university in the  field of engineers, and had  at least ten                                                                    
years of professional sub-surface  experience in oil and gas                                                                    
industry drillings.  A person  obtained an  undergraduate or                                                                    
graduate  degree in  engineering that  met the  requirements                                                                    
for program  accreditation by the  Engineering Accreditation                                                                    
Commission  of the  Accreditation Board  of Engineering  and                                                                    
Technology. Another  member must be  a geologist who  held a                                                                    
certificate  of  a  professional  geologist,  had  earned  a                                                                    
degree in the field of  geology from a university accredited                                                                    
in the  field of  geology, and  had a  minimum of  ten years                                                                    
professional experience  in the field of  petroleum geology.                                                                    
Lastly, one  member must have  training and  experience that                                                                    
influenced a  fundamental understanding  of the oil  and gas                                                                    
industry in the state.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MICHAEL  GALLAGHER, ANCHORAGE,  shared  his credentials  and                                                                    
reasons for  his interest in  the appointment. He  felt that                                                                    
he  could contribute  to the  commission with  his knowledge                                                                    
and experience  in the oil  and gas industry.  He understood                                                                    
the  importance of  the commission,  and,  if confirmed,  he                                                                    
would  continue   to  protect   the  public's   interest  in                                                                    
exploration  and  development  of  Alaska's  oil,  gas,  and                                                                    
geothermal    resources   through    the   application    of                                                                    
conservation practices  designed to ensure  greater ultimate                                                                    
recovery and the protection of  health, safety, fresh ground                                                                    
waters, and the rights of  all owners to recover their share                                                                    
of  the  resource.  Alaska  had provided  for  him  and  his                                                                    
family, and  was grateful for  the opportunity to  give back                                                                    
to  Alaska. He  shared that  he  and his  wife raised  their                                                                    
children in  Alaska, and were all  current Alaska residents.                                                                    
He had  over 38 years' experience  in the oil and  gas civil                                                                    
and vertical  construction industry. He spent  over 19 years                                                                    
in  the Labors  International Union  of North  America Local                                                                    
341,  as a  business agent,  vice-president, president,  and                                                                    
business manager.  He negotiated bargaining  agreements with                                                                    
other  employers and  managed the  day-to-day operations  of                                                                    
the local union.  As the business manager, he  was a trustee                                                                    
of a $560  million pension plan, and $14  million health and                                                                    
welfare plan. He was involved  in many judicial hearing, and                                                                    
the board of trustees  was responsible for conducting appeal                                                                    
hearings.  He  was  required  to   look  at  the  facts  and                                                                    
evidence, and make a decision  on those factors according to                                                                    
the plan  document. He felt  that this appointment  would be                                                                    
an  opportunity  for  learning, and  was  pleased  to  serve                                                                    
Alaska  on  a  well-respected  commission  in  concert  with                                                                    
distinguished colleagues.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:56:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Micciche  shared  that he  had  interviewed  the                                                                    
nominee. He was  impressed with his politeness,  but did not                                                                    
feel that he was qualified for the appointment.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bishop  commented that he had  first-hand experience                                                                    
with oil and gas engineers.  He stated that there was "black                                                                    
art"  associated with  the  downhole  experience in  Prudhoe                                                                    
Bay.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon echoed  Vice-Chair Micciche's  concerns.                                                                    
She  stressed   that  the  focus   of  the   commission  was                                                                    
understanding  the  resources  in  the ground,  and  how  to                                                                    
access those resources to benefit Alaska.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson asked  for a response to  the stated concerns.                                                                    
Mr. Gallagher  replied that  he was  qualified based  on the                                                                    
statutory guidelines,  because he was familiar  with the oil                                                                    
and gas industry. He had  educated himself regarding digging                                                                    
a  well and  downhole expectations.  He felt  that he  could                                                                    
bring a perspective based on Alaska benefit.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon  FORWARDED  the appointment  of  Michael                                                                    
Gallagher   to  a   Joint  Session   for  consideration   in                                                                    
accordance  with  AS  39.05.080.  This did  not  reflect  an                                                                    
intent  by   any  member   to  vote   for  or   against  the                                                                    
confirmation   of  the   individuals   during  any   further                                                                    
sessions.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
^CONFIRMATION  HEARING:  BOARD   OF  CERTIFIED  REAL  ESTATE                                                                  
APPRAISERS                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:02:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon  stated that the Board  of Certified Real                                                                    
Estate  Appraisers was  located in  AS 08.87.010.  The board                                                                    
was composed of  five members appointed by  the governor. At                                                                    
least  one member  shall  be a  person  certified under  the                                                                    
chapter as  a general  real estate  appraiser. At  least one                                                                    
member shall  be a person  certified under the chapter  as a                                                                    
residential  real  estate  appraiser. At  least  one  member                                                                    
shall be  an executive in  the mortgage banking  entity; and                                                                    
at least one member shall represent the public.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
RENEE PISZCZEK,  FAIRBANKS (via  teleconference), introduced                                                                    
herself.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon asked how Ms.  Pixzczek was qualified for                                                                    
the position. Ms. Piszczek explained  that she had worked in                                                                    
residential  lending   for  20   years,  and   underwrote  a                                                                    
residential appraisal  daily through  the loan  process. She                                                                    
was  required  to  understand  Fanny  May  and  Freddie  Mac                                                                    
criteria.  She  wanted  to  assist  the  board  with  public                                                                    
comment on appraisals.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon  wondered  how  long  Ms.  Piszczek  had                                                                    
resided in  Alaska. Ms. Piszczek  replied that she  had been                                                                    
in Alaska since 1985.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon  FORWARDED   the  appointment  of  Renee                                                                    
Piszczek to a Joint  Session for consideration in accordance                                                                    
with AS  39.05.080. This  did not reflect  an intent  by any                                                                    
member  to  vote for  or  against  the confirmation  of  the                                                                    
individuals during any further sessions.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
2:05:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 2:05 p.m.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
031615 Board of Certified Real Estate Appraisers Resumes.pdf SFIN 3/16/2015 1:30:00 PM
Confirmations 2015
031615 AOGCC Confirmation Resumes.pdf SFIN 3/16/2015 1:30:00 PM
Confiramtions 2015
031615 AMHTA Confirmation Resumes.pdf SFIN 3/16/2015 1:30:00 PM
Confirmations 2015
031615 Board of Certified Real Estate Appraisers 08 87 010.docx SFIN 3/16/2015 1:30:00 PM
Confirmations 2015
031615 Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission 31 05 005.docx SFIN 3/16/2015 1:30:00 PM
Confirmations 2015
031615 Alaska Mental Health Trust Authority Board of Trustees 47 30 011.docx SFIN 3/16/2015 1:30:00 PM
Confirmations 2015